Guys Dragon Ball Super Episode 86 was a 5 star episode in terms of action. Android 17 returned, and he went beyond our expectations. We witnessed just how mysteriously powerful 17 has become, as he displayed his power standing up to God Goku. The fight wasn’t the longest, but it was perfect. The fighting choreography, landscapes, dialogues, and stunning visuals really made the episode worth the hype.
This was a special episode because this marked the return of Android 17. We had a pretty dope and classic DBZ style fight between Goku and 17, and 17’s performance was shocking to be said the least. Anyways, this episode also hinted something that might have a huge impact on the upcoming arcs, and also as to in which direction Super will go from here onwards. As a fan I could imagine a lot of different interesting ways they could spin this UUB story, and I’m looking forward to check out your thoughts in the comments. I’ll now talk about UUB’s part, and it’s going to be long but after that I am going to explain how 17 was able to keep up with Goku. So, make sure you watch the full video.
Goku wanted Evil Buu to reincarnate as a good guy, and UUB it is. Buu is someone who has existed ever since the dawn of time, and this UUB kid is his reincarnation. Let that sink in. No fighter of ours was born that great or with such high potential. Technically he should have more potential than any of our Z fighters, he should have even more dormant potential than the Saiyans.
UUB appeared in the last episode of DBZ, and he was able to impress majority of the fans with his little battle against Goku. Now, we don’t know where this last episode of DBZ will stand by the time Super is done, as it might as well get overwritten or rewritten. As you know Dragon Ball Super is taking place after the end of the Buu arc, and not the actual last episode of DBZ. So, anything relating to UUB is a vital indicator as to where the show is going. In Dragon Ball Super, UUB was once mentioned before the U6 vs 7 tournament, but that was very vague, and didn’t really go that in-depth. However, a segment of this episode, clearly reminded us of this legacy growing up somewhere in Earth. As Dende tells Goku that there’s a genius boy with unbelievable martial arts talent, but he is not aware of his abilities, and that once he gets a bit older Goku should go and train him, as he is the one behind his existence essentially. However, he can’t participate in the tournament he is too young for it, and is not skilled enough and all that.
UUB appeared in the last episode of DBZ, and he was able to impress majority of the fans with his little battle against Goku. Now, we don’t know where this last episode of DBZ will stand by the time Super is done, as it might as well get overwritten or rewritten. As you know Dragon Ball Super is taking place after the end of the Buu arc, and not the actual last episode of DBZ. So, anything relating to UUB is a vital indicator as to where the show is going. In Dragon Ball Super, UUB was once mentioned before the U6 vs 7 tournament, but that was very vague, and didn’t really go that in-depth. However, a segment of this episode, clearly reminded us of this legacy growing up somewhere in Earth. As Dende tells Goku that there’s a genius boy with unbelievable martial arts talent, but he is not aware of his abilities, and that once he gets a bit older Goku should go and train him, as he is the one behind his existence essentially. However, he can’t participate in the tournament he is too young for it, and is not skilled enough and all that.
Anyways, so how will the story of UUB go?
They could approach it in mainly 2 ways, either they can follow the last episode continuity of DBZ, then eventually go past it or they could completely erase and overwrite the ending of Dragon Ball Z, in a way suitable and better for the story of Dragon Ball Super. It’s just one episode of DBZ, and I think it can easily be overwritten for the greater good.
In my opinion, they should overwrite the DBZ ending, simply for making it look more like DBS. Now, after all that happened you could expect a bit of change than what was shown in that Episode to be more DBS appropriate. I just don’t think they should have to go through the pain of keeping in mind what was shown in just one last episode, and not to contradict it in anyways. As that could limit the plot possibilities!
Anyways, I have observed most of you guys prefer that they follow the ending of DBZ, if that is in fact the case, it would mean, UUB will not meet Goku and others before the 28th martial arts tournament.
So, does that mean unless DBS has a time-skip and surpasses the ending of DBS we will not see UUB anytime soon or will have any significant UUB episode before the 28th World Martial Arts take place?
So, does that mean unless DBS has a time-skip and surpasses the ending of DBS we will not see UUB anytime soon or will have any significant UUB episode before the 28th World Martial Arts take place?
That’s not necessarily what has to happen. Look, Dragon Ball Super is taking place in between the 10 years gap from the end of the Buu arc to the last Episode of DBZ. So, it would only make sense if DBS showed us stuff that we didn’t get it to see in Dragon Ball Z. That is UUB’s story prior to meeting Goku and the Gang. His family, his village, how he found about his powers, how he dealt with it, maybe he’s a local hero, and all that stuff you know. Look, this story with UUB would be a low powered thing as compared to what he have been witnessing regularly, but this could at the same time bring back that adventure vibe of the Good old Dragon Ball Days. In a matter of fact, I think DBS should do 10-15 episode mini segments only featuring some upcoming characters, like UUB for example. This could also be a new generation thing, where they can show the adventures of Goten, Trunks even how Pan or Bulla is growing up to be, maybe a look at even 17’s kids. You know many other shows does that, I don’t know what it’s exactly called, but they stop showing the usual stories involving the main characters, and highlights some new characters or others who weren’t getting much attention before. Segments like this will also much needed depth in characters like Goten and Trunks. I personally have hard time loving Goten and Trunks, because they just didn’t go through anything. I have seen Goku and Krillin growing up dealing with hell, same case with Gohan, but Goten and Trunks just seems like some undeserving overpowered fighters. I just can’t get behind them if they don’t add some layers to it.
So, about UUB, if they go with The DBZ Ending continuity, in short Goku can’t meet him before the 28th World Martial Arts Tournament. In that case, if DBS still wants him on the screen, they’ll just how to show his independent story.
Now, the second option is to completely forget there was ever that last episode of DBZ. That way the Writers can literally come up with any story for UUB, Goku and others can meet UUB anytime. Also, if they redo the ending it’ll be more appropriate maybe with the presence Whis and Beerus or at least mentions of them. Krillin can continue his classic look unlike what we see in DBZ. I think, wish and hope Krillin will not quite martial arts after just making
a return.
a return.
If they go down this path, some of the fan theories might also be taken in consideration in regards to giving UUB a more fascinating story. We know UUB is born with potential higher than anyone else, so other evil forces might want to get hold of him at an early age, and manipulate him. He is born as a good guy, but still a human and can be manipulated into doing wrong stuff. Basically, some kind of story like UUB got into hands of evil, and then somehow he comes out of it. There has also been some theories about how UUB can become a God of Destruction, as he will essentially become something very close to a God if he ever decides to merge with Fat Buu. Even though these theories seem far stretched, and sometimes just way too unrealistic, the writers can mix things up and work it out.
I personally want them to start concentrating on UUB as early as possible because he has some similarity with Kid Gohan,. Gohan was also nervous and unskilled, but due to being extremely talented and having high dormant potential, he would fu*k everyone up when shit got real, and he got angry. Sometimes I miss that vulnerable Gohan, and I feel UUB can give us that feeling or vibe for a while again.
Now, coming to the Android 17 part, if you put everything aside, the fight alone was fantastic. The Pacing was right, you could feel the intensity behind each of 17’s punch, and it’s like it’s just piercing through the screen. Especially the way he nailed Goku in the stomach. Now, Goku did go Super Saiyan Blue, and it looked like Android 17 was able to give him a run for his money. This is what pissed off many fans who are rather concerned about power scaling. Now, I’ll give a very short explanation here, because I will do a separate video on Android 17 because almost all the fans are talking about him now, he is the trending guy. So, if you want my full explanation make sure to watch that.
Anyways, in this case we have to consider some vital points. Firstly, we can’t say Android 17 is on par with SSB Goku, because Goku was not being serious. Also, when Goku is fighting with his allies he doesn’t have any intention to cause any harm to them. Rather he wants to test them. Also, at this point, he is not overpowering them rather trying to outmatch them in terms of strategy. He could simply overpower and we would not have this argument, but even though they are not as powerful as SSB Goku they are skilled. So, Goku is not always getting the upper hand. Even in SSB, Goku can control his power so we will have to use our common sense and assume the obvious.
However, this is not to take away the fact that 17 has in fact improved significantly. Even if Goku wasn’t using full power, keeping up with SSB Goku is a huge deal, this essentially 17 above almost all of DBZ. I find it acceptable, because 17 kept training and he has enormous potential as even stated by the producer of DBS in a recent interview. When he first met Frieza he failed to beat a single Super Saiyan, yet he was able to match SSB just with 5 months of training because of the potential he always had but never used. While 17 along with 18 was able to kill Z fighters including the likes of Vegeta and Piccolo in the future timeline; so he was way beyond Frieza. Since, he is an enhanced human or like a cyborg, arguably he could have more potential than Goku and Vegeta. Thus, with trainigng he has become powerful enough to hold his own against Goku, even though he can’t defeat him. So, I think we should stop being such bitches, and just appreciate that non-saiyan characters power boost. Anyways this was just the basics, I’ll go in-depth on this topic, in my upcoming video. Anyways what do you think? What are your expectations? What do you want them to do with UUB?
Any major change or you think it would be best keep things simple, like the way it was in DBZ?
Comment down below and let us know.